Discussion:
Claws mail refuse to connect with gmail
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Edmund
2018-08-01 20:41:21 UTC
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Since recently claws cannot retrieve or send from gmail.com

What happened?

Edmund
Johnny
2018-08-01 22:09:59 UTC
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On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 20:41:21 -0000 (UTC)
Post by Edmund
Since recently claws cannot retrieve or send from gmail.com
What happened?
Edmund
Maybe this will help.

https://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Using_Claws_with_Gmail
Mike Easter
2018-08-02 02:44:44 UTC
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Post by Johnny
Post by Edmund
Since recently claws cannot retrieve or send from gmail.com
What happened?
Maybe this will help.
https://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Using_Claws_with_Gmail
That 5 y/o article may be helpful for Claws using Gmail's system of tags
for folders, but it is more likely that claws-gmail connectivity issues
arise from Claws inability to do OAuth.

Gmail likes to call that inability 'less secure'. There was a
discussion about a year ago which can be seen in narkive:

http://users.claws-mail.narkive.com/Cf1REo7f/does-claws-mail-no-longer-support-gmail-without-enabling-the-insecure-app-setting
Does claws-mail no longer support gmail without enabling the insecure
app setting?
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stepore
2018-08-02 04:47:49 UTC
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Post by Edmund
Since recently claws cannot retrieve or send from gmail.com
What happened?
Go ask Google. They love breaking shit!
Yossarian
2018-08-02 09:18:07 UTC
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Post by Edmund
Since recently claws cannot retrieve or send from gmail.com
What happened?
Edmund
To me its working with no problemo.
What say your network log?
In Claws pres
Shift+Ctrl+L
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Edmund
2018-08-02 10:23:17 UTC
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Post by Yossarian
Post by Edmund
Since recently claws cannot retrieve or send from gmail.com
What happened?
Edmund
To me its working with no problemo.
That is hopeful :-)

In the mean time I found out the POP settings are not functioning
anymore.
All my computers have have the POP settings configured and are
not working anymore.
I changed ( created a new account ) these settings in Claws
to IMAP - Autoconfigure -autentication method Automatic
Not working
Use SSL for IMAP4 connection

Use SSL for SMTP connection

SMTP port 465
IMAP port 993 ( grayed out - default )

Changed autentication method to "LOGIN"
Worked for receiving
Unfortunately it received 10000 messages :-)

Still cannot send messages
Post by Yossarian
What say your network log?
For sending :

* Account 'xxxxxxIMAP': Connecting to SMTP server: smtp.gmail.com:465...
[12:17:42] IMAP4> 146 NOOP
[12:17:42] IMAP4< 146 OK Success
*** Session timed out. You may be able to recover by increasing the timeout value in Preferences/Other/Miscellaneous.
[12:18:24] IMAP4> 147 SELECT Queue
[12:18:24] IMAP4< * FLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Draft \Deleted \Seen $Forwarded $NotJ
[12:18:24] IMAP4< unk $NotPhishing $Phishing NonJunk NotJunk)
[12:18:24] IMAP4< * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Draft \Deleted \Seen $Forwarded $NotJunk $NotPhishing $Phishing NonJunk NotJunk \*)] Flags permitted.
[12:18:24] IMAP4< * OK [UIDVALIDITY 17] UIDs valid.
[12:18:24] IMAP4< * 1 EXISTS
[12:18:24] IMAP4< * 0 RECENT
[12:18:24] IMAP4< * OK [UIDNEXT 7] Predicted next UID.
[12:18:24] IMAP4< * OK [HIGHESTMODSEQ 610371]
[12:18:24] IMAP4< 147 OK [READ-WRITE] Queue selected. (Success)
[12:18:24] IMAP4> 148 UID STORE 6 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Deleted)
[12:18:24] IMAP4< * 1 EXPUNGE
[12:18:24] IMAP4< * 0 EXISTS
[12:18:24] IMAP4< 148 OK Success
[12:18:24] IMAP4- [fetching UIDs...]
[12:18:24] IMAP4> 149 UID FETCH 1:* (UID)
[12:18:24] IMAP4< 149 OK Success
[12:18:40] IMAP4> 150 SELECT Drafts
[12:18:40] IMAP4< * FLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Draft \Deleted \Seen $Forwarded $NotJ
[12:18:40] IMAP4< unk $NotPhishing $Phishing NonJunk NotJunk)
[12:18:40] IMAP4< * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Draft \Deleted \Seen $Forwarded $NotJunk $N
[12:18:40] IMAP4< otPhishing $Phishing NonJunk NotJunk \*)] Flags permitted.
[12:18:40] IMAP4< * OK [UIDVALIDITY 19] UIDs valid.
[12:18:40] IMAP4< * 2 EXISTS
[12:18:40] IMAP4< * 0 RECENT
[12:18:40] IMAP4< * OK [UIDNEXT 8] Predicted next UID.
[12:18:40] IMAP4< * OK [HIGHESTMODSEQ 610376]
[12:18:40] IMAP4< 150 OK [READ-WRITE] Drafts selected. (Success)
[12:18:40] IMAP4> 151 UID STORE 7 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Deleted)
[12:18:40] IMAP4< 151 OK Success
[12:18:42] IMAP4> 152 NOOP
[12:18:42] IMAP4< 152 OK Success

Can you show your configuration settings for gmail?

Thanks

Edmund
Yossarian
2018-08-02 10:43:23 UTC
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Post by Edmund
Can you show your configuration settings for gmail?
Thanks
basic/ server information
protocol POP auto configure
reciving : pop.gmail.com
send : smtp.gmail.com
enter your user and password

send/ authenticarion
SMTP Authenticarion (SMTP AUTH) check
authenticarion metod: LOGIN
enter your user and password

SSL/TLS
Pop : Use SSL/TLS
Send :Use SSL/TLS
Use non blocking SSL/TLS check

On your service sir :))))
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Edmund
2018-08-02 11:21:24 UTC
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Post by Yossarian
Post by Edmund
Can you show your configuration settings for gmail?
Thanks
basic/ server information
protocol POP auto configure
reciving : pop.gmail.com
send : smtp.gmail.com
enter your user and password
Same here ( as it was )
Post by Yossarian
send/ authenticarion
SMTP Authenticarion (SMTP AUTH) check
authenticarion metod: LOGIN
Was "automatic" here which worked until July 27
Post by Yossarian
enter your user and password
same here
Post by Yossarian
SSL/TLS
Do not have TLS anywhere.
Post by Yossarian
Pop : Use SSL/TLS
No such option here
Selected is : use SSL for POP3 connection
Post by Yossarian
Send :Use SSL/TLS
Again no such option here
Selected is : use SSL for SMTP connection
Post by Yossarian
Use non blocking SSL/TLS check
Same here
Post by Yossarian
On your service sir :))))
Thank you but I still don't know what is wrong with my old
settings.
What are your port settings?
You have not selected : use secure authentication APOP did you?

Edmund
Paul
2018-08-02 11:42:50 UTC
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Post by Edmund
Post by Yossarian
Send :Use SSL/TLS
Again no such option here
Selected is : use SSL for SMTP connection
https://www.lifewire.com/what-are-the-gmail-smtp-settings-1170854

Gmail's Default SMTP Settings

Gmail SMTP server address: smtp.gmail.com
Gmail SMTP username: Your Gmail address (e.g. ***@gmail.com)
Gmail SMTP password: Your Gmail password
Gmail SMTP port (TLS): 587
Gmail SMTP port (SSL): 465
Gmail SMTP TLS/SSL required: yes

Some email applications use older, less secure technologies to
log you into your email account, and Google will block these
requests by default [Google expects OAUTH2].

To solve this, log in to your Google account through a web browser
and enable "access through less secure apps" through this link.

https://myaccount.google.com/lesssecureapps?pli=1

Your options are:

1) Use the "less secure apps" setting like everyone else.

(Thunderbird may have an implementation of OAUTH2.
The Thunderbird developers didn't want to do this,
because it places a web protocol requirement, on what
should be only email protocols. An email client should
not have to know anything about the Web to work.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OAuth#OAuth_2.0

2) Fiddle with SSL/TLS port number. Your client may not
have TLS available, in which case 587 won't work.

Do (1) first, before you do anything else!

HTH,
Paul
Caver1
2018-08-02 12:02:27 UTC
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Post by Paul
Post by Yossarian
Send :Use SSL/TLS
Again no such option here Selected is : use SSL for SMTP connection
https://www.lifewire.com/what-are-the-gmail-smtp-settings-1170854
    Gmail's Default SMTP Settings
    Gmail SMTP server address: smtp.gmail.com
    Gmail SMTP password: Your Gmail password
    Gmail SMTP port (TLS): 587
    Gmail SMTP port (SSL): 465
    Gmail SMTP TLS/SSL required: yes
    Some email applications use older, less secure technologies to
    log you into your email account, and Google will block these
    requests by default [Google expects OAUTH2].
    To solve this, log in to your Google account through a web browser
    and enable "access through less secure apps" through this link.
    https://myaccount.google.com/lesssecureapps?pli=1
1) Use the "less secure apps" setting like everyone else.
This is most likely what is the problem.
Post by Paul
   (Thunderbird may have an implementation of OAUTH2.
   The Thunderbird developers didn't want to do this,
   because it places a web protocol requirement, on what
   should be only email protocols. An email client should
   not have to know anything about the Web to work.)
Edmund states that he is using POP. OAUTH2 is only for IMAP.
Post by Paul
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OAuth#OAuth_2.0
2) Fiddle with SSL/TLS port number. Your client may not
   have TLS available, in which case 587 won't work.
Do (1) first, before you do anything else!
HTH,
   Paul
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Edmund
2018-08-02 13:23:13 UTC
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Post by Paul
Post by Edmund
Post by Yossarian
Send :Use SSL/TLS
Again no such option here
Selected is : use SSL for SMTP connection
https://www.lifewire.com/what-are-the-gmail-smtp-settings-1170854
Gmail's Default SMTP Settings
Gmail SMTP server address: smtp.gmail.com
Gmail SMTP password: Your Gmail password
Gmail SMTP port (TLS): 587
Gmail SMTP port (SSL): 465
Gmail SMTP TLS/SSL required: yes
Some email applications use older, less secure technologies to
log you into your email account, and Google will block these
requests by default [Google expects OAUTH2].
Is this changed recently? If not it is not the problem it worked
for many years until July 27.
Post by Paul
To solve this, log in to your Google account through a web browser
and enable "access through less secure apps" through this link.
https://myaccount.google.com/lesssecureapps?pli=1
I read about it but I don't know where they have hidden this
option.
I found -somewhere- if you cannot find that option your
administrator might have removed it.
Great help, my administrator right!
Post by Paul
1) Use the "less secure apps" setting like everyone else.
(Thunderbird may have an implementation of OAUTH2.
The Thunderbird developers didn't want to do this,
because it places a web protocol requirement, on what
should be only email protocols. An email client should
not have to know anything about the Web to work.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OAuth#OAuth_2.0
2) Fiddle with SSL/TLS port number. Your client may not
have TLS available, in which case 587 won't work.
Do (1) first, before you do anything else!
HTH,
Paul
Edmund
Paul
2018-08-02 13:51:23 UTC
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Post by Paul
https://myaccount.google.com/lesssecureapps?pli=1
Go there and check.

If you know your email client has no Google friendly
procedure, you *need to turn that on*.

Paul
Edmund
2018-08-02 14:04:58 UTC
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Post by Paul
Post by Paul
https://myaccount.google.com/lesssecureapps?pli=1
Go there and check.
If you know your email client has no Google friendly
procedure, you *need to turn that on*.
Paul
Found it and is already on

Edmund
Caver1
2018-08-02 18:23:00 UTC
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Post by Edmund
Post by Paul
Post by Edmund
Post by Yossarian
Send :Use SSL/TLS
Again no such option here
Selected is : use SSL for SMTP connection
https://www.lifewire.com/what-are-the-gmail-smtp-settings-1170854
Gmail's Default SMTP Settings
Gmail SMTP server address: smtp.gmail.com
Gmail SMTP password: Your Gmail password
Gmail SMTP port (TLS): 587
Gmail SMTP port (SSL): 465
Gmail SMTP TLS/SSL required: yes
Some email applications use older, less secure technologies to
log you into your email account, and Google will block these
requests by default [Google expects OAUTH2].
Is this changed recently? If not it is not the problem it worked
for many years until July 27.
Post by Paul
To solve this, log in to your Google account through a web browser
and enable "access through less secure apps" through this link.
https://myaccount.google.com/lesssecureapps?pli=1
I read about it but I don't know where they have hidden this
option.
I found -somewhere- if you cannot find that option your
administrator might have removed it.
Great help, my administrator right!
Your admin can't remove options on the gmail site. Now the Google admin
could but didn't. It's still there.
Post by Edmund
Post by Paul
1) Use the "less secure apps" setting like everyone else.
(Thunderbird may have an implementation of OAUTH2.
The Thunderbird developers didn't want to do this,
because it places a web protocol requirement, on what
should be only email protocols. An email client should
not have to know anything about the Web to work.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OAuth#OAuth_2.0
2) Fiddle with SSL/TLS port number. Your client may not
have TLS available, in which case 587 won't work.
Do (1) first, before you do anything else!
HTH,
Paul
Edmund
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Caver1
2018-08-02 18:35:26 UTC
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Post by Caver1
Post by Edmund
Post by Paul
Post by Edmund
Post by Yossarian
Send :Use SSL/TLS
Again no such option here
Selected is : use SSL for SMTP connection
https://www.lifewire.com/what-are-the-gmail-smtp-settings-1170854
      Gmail's Default SMTP Settings
      Gmail SMTP server address: smtp.gmail.com
      Gmail SMTP password: Your Gmail password
      Gmail SMTP port (TLS): 587
      Gmail SMTP port (SSL): 465
      Gmail SMTP TLS/SSL required: yes
      Some email applications use older, less secure technologies to
      log you into your email account, and Google will block these
      requests by default [Google expects OAUTH2].
Is this changed recently? If not it is not the problem it worked
for many years until July 27.
Post by Paul
      To solve this, log in to your Google account through a web browser
      and enable "access through less secure apps" through this link.
      https://myaccount.google.com/lesssecureapps?pli=1
I read about it but I don't know where they have hidden this
option.
I found -somewhere- if you cannot find that option your
administrator might have removed it.
Great help, my administrator right!
Your admin can't remove options on the gmail site. Now the Google admin
could but didn't. It's still there.
Post by Edmund
Post by Paul
1) Use the "less secure apps" setting like everyone else.
     (Thunderbird may have an implementation of OAUTH2.
     The Thunderbird developers didn't want to do this,
     because it places a web protocol requirement, on what
     should be only email protocols. An email client should
     not have to know anything about the Web to work.)
     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OAuth#OAuth_2.0
2) Fiddle with SSL/TLS port number. Your client may not
     have TLS available, in which case 587 won't work.
Do (1) first, before you do anything else!
HTH,
     Paul
Edmund
I forgot, when I get the time I will find it and tell you where to find
it. Right now I don't remember but I did set it about 2 months ago for a
new email account.
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Edmund
2018-08-02 18:58:57 UTC
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Post by Caver1
Post by Caver1
Post by Edmund
Post by Paul
Post by Edmund
Post by Yossarian
Send :Use SSL/TLS
Again no such option here
Selected is : use SSL for SMTP connection
https://www.lifewire.com/what-are-the-gmail-smtp-settings-1170854
      Gmail's Default SMTP Settings
      Gmail SMTP server address: smtp.gmail.com
      Gmail SMTP password: Your Gmail password
      Gmail SMTP port (TLS): 587
      Gmail SMTP port (SSL): 465
      Gmail SMTP TLS/SSL required: yes
      Some email applications use older, less secure technologies to
      log you into your email account, and Google will block these
      requests by default [Google expects OAUTH2].
Is this changed recently? If not it is not the problem it worked
for many years until July 27.
Post by Paul
      To solve this, log in to your Google account through a web browser
      and enable "access through less secure apps" through this link.
      https://myaccount.google.com/lesssecureapps?pli=1
I read about it but I don't know where they have hidden this
option.
I found -somewhere- if you cannot find that option your
administrator might have removed it.
Great help, my administrator right!
Your admin can't remove options on the gmail site. Now the Google admin
could but didn't. It's still there.
Post by Edmund
Post by Paul
1) Use the "less secure apps" setting like everyone else.
     (Thunderbird may have an implementation of OAUTH2.
     The Thunderbird developers didn't want to do this,
     because it places a web protocol requirement, on what
     should be only email protocols. An email client should
     not have to know anything about the Web to work.)
     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OAuth#OAuth_2.0
2) Fiddle with SSL/TLS port number. Your client may not
     have TLS available, in which case 587 won't work.
Do (1) first, before you do anything else!
HTH,
     Paul
Edmund
I forgot, when I get the time I will find it and tell you where to find
it. Right now I don't remember but I did set it about 2 months ago for a
new email account.
Thanks, I found it and is already on.

Edmund
Caver1
2018-08-02 19:18:34 UTC
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Post by Edmund
Post by Caver1
Post by Caver1
Post by Edmund
Post by Paul
Post by Edmund
Post by Yossarian
Send :Use SSL/TLS
Again no such option here
Selected is : use SSL for SMTP connection
https://www.lifewire.com/what-are-the-gmail-smtp-settings-1170854
      Gmail's Default SMTP Settings
      Gmail SMTP server address: smtp.gmail.com
      Gmail SMTP password: Your Gmail password
      Gmail SMTP port (TLS): 587
      Gmail SMTP port (SSL): 465
      Gmail SMTP TLS/SSL required: yes
      Some email applications use older, less secure technologies to
      log you into your email account, and Google will block these
      requests by default [Google expects OAUTH2].
Is this changed recently? If not it is not the problem it worked
for many years until July 27.
Post by Paul
      To solve this, log in to your Google account through a web browser
      and enable "access through less secure apps" through this link.
      https://myaccount.google.com/lesssecureapps?pli=1
I read about it but I don't know where they have hidden this
option.
I found -somewhere- if you cannot find that option your
administrator might have removed it.
Great help, my administrator right!
Your admin can't remove options on the gmail site. Now the Google admin
could but didn't. It's still there.
Post by Edmund
Post by Paul
1) Use the "less secure apps" setting like everyone else.
     (Thunderbird may have an implementation of OAUTH2.
     The Thunderbird developers didn't want to do this,
     because it places a web protocol requirement, on what
     should be only email protocols. An email client should
     not have to know anything about the Web to work.)
     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OAuth#OAuth_2.0
2) Fiddle with SSL/TLS port number. Your client may not
     have TLS available, in which case 587 won't work.
Do (1) first, before you do anything else!
HTH,
     Paul
Edmund
I forgot, when I get the time I will find it and tell you where to find
it. Right now I don't remember but I did set it about 2 months ago for a
new email account.
Thanks, I found it and is already on.
Edmund
So all is working?
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Edmund
2018-08-02 20:04:38 UTC
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Post by Caver1
Post by Edmund
Post by Caver1
Post by Caver1
Post by Edmund
Post by Paul
Post by Edmund
Post by Yossarian
Send :Use SSL/TLS
Again no such option here
Selected is : use SSL for SMTP connection
https://www.lifewire.com/what-are-the-gmail-smtp-settings-1170854
      Gmail's Default SMTP Settings
      Gmail SMTP server address: smtp.gmail.com
      Gmail SMTP password: Your Gmail password
      Gmail SMTP port (TLS): 587
      Gmail SMTP port (SSL): 465
      Gmail SMTP TLS/SSL required: yes
      Some email applications use older, less secure technologies to
      log you into your email account, and Google will block these
      requests by default [Google expects OAUTH2].
Is this changed recently? If not it is not the problem it worked
for many years until July 27.
Post by Paul
      To solve this, log in to your Google account through a web browser
      and enable "access through less secure apps" through this link.
      https://myaccount.google.com/lesssecureapps?pli=1
I read about it but I don't know where they have hidden this
option.
I found -somewhere- if you cannot find that option your
administrator might have removed it.
Great help, my administrator right!
Your admin can't remove options on the gmail site. Now the Google admin
could but didn't. It's still there.
Post by Edmund
Post by Paul
1) Use the "less secure apps" setting like everyone else.
     (Thunderbird may have an implementation of OAUTH2.
     The Thunderbird developers didn't want to do this,
     because it places a web protocol requirement, on what
     should be only email protocols. An email client should
     not have to know anything about the Web to work.)
     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OAuth#OAuth_2.0
2) Fiddle with SSL/TLS port number. Your client may not
     have TLS available, in which case 587 won't work.
Do (1) first, before you do anything else!
HTH,
     Paul
Edmund
I forgot, when I get the time I will find it and tell you where to find
it. Right now I don't remember but I did set it about 2 months ago for a
new email account.
Thanks, I found it and is already on.
Edmund
So all is working?
Nope
Caver1
2018-08-02 21:18:18 UTC
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Post by Caver1
Post by Edmund
Post by Caver1
Post by Caver1
Post by Edmund
Post by Paul
Post by Edmund
Post by Yossarian
Send :Use SSL/TLS
Again no such option here
Selected is : use SSL for SMTP connection
https://www.lifewire.com/what-are-the-gmail-smtp-settings-1170854
      Gmail's Default SMTP Settings
      Gmail SMTP server address: smtp.gmail.com
      Gmail SMTP password: Your Gmail password
      Gmail SMTP port (TLS): 587
      Gmail SMTP port (SSL): 465
      Gmail SMTP TLS/SSL required: yes
      Some email applications use older, less secure technologies to
      log you into your email account, and Google will block these
      requests by default [Google expects OAUTH2].
Is this changed recently? If not it is not the problem it worked
for many years until July 27.
Post by Paul
      To solve this, log in to your Google account through a web browser
      and enable "access through less secure apps" through this link.
      https://myaccount.google.com/lesssecureapps?pli=1
I read about it but I don't know where they have hidden this
option.
I found -somewhere- if you cannot find that option your
administrator might have removed it.
Great help, my administrator right!
Your admin can't remove options on the gmail site. Now the Google admin
could but didn't. It's still there.
Post by Edmund
Post by Paul
1) Use the "less secure apps" setting like everyone else.
     (Thunderbird may have an implementation of OAUTH2.
     The Thunderbird developers didn't want to do this,
     because it places a web protocol requirement, on what
     should be only email protocols. An email client should
     not have to know anything about the Web to work.)
     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OAuth#OAuth_2.0
2) Fiddle with SSL/TLS port number. Your client may not
     have TLS available, in which case 587 won't work.
Do (1) first, before you do anything else!
HTH,
     Paul
Edmund
I forgot, when I get the time I will find it and tell you where to find
it. Right now I don't remember but I did set it about 2 months ago for a
new email account.
Thanks, I found it and is already on.
Edmund
So all is working?
Nope
So you found the setting in your Google account? Or are you talking
about your Claws mail setting?
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Caver1
Mike Easter
2018-08-02 21:39:43 UTC
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Post by Caver1
So all is working?
Nope
Another gmail connectivity problem which can arise with any agent, not
just Claws is if there has been authentiation 'trouble', then gmail's
security feature kicks in and the mail client can't access until you
access gmail's webmail which will require a captcha in addition to a pass.

After the webmail has been accessed in that way, then the client works
again.
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Mike Easter
Wildman
2018-08-03 05:20:53 UTC
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Post by Mike Easter
Post by Caver1
So all is working?
Nope
Another gmail connectivity problem which can arise with any agent, not
just Claws is if there has been authentiation 'trouble', then gmail's
security feature kicks in and the mail client can't access until you
access gmail's webmail which will require a captcha in addition to a pass.
After the webmail has been accessed in that way, then the client works
again.
There's no time for a sensible solution.
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The cow died so I don't need your bull!
Caver1
2018-08-03 13:02:28 UTC
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Post by Edmund
Post by Caver1
Post by Caver1
Post by Edmund
Post by Paul
Post by Edmund
Post by Yossarian
Send :Use SSL/TLS
Again no such option here
Selected is : use SSL for SMTP connection
https://www.lifewire.com/what-are-the-gmail-smtp-settings-1170854
      Gmail's Default SMTP Settings
      Gmail SMTP server address: smtp.gmail.com
      Gmail SMTP password: Your Gmail password
      Gmail SMTP port (TLS): 587
      Gmail SMTP port (SSL): 465
      Gmail SMTP TLS/SSL required: yes
      Some email applications use older, less secure technologies to
      log you into your email account, and Google will block these
      requests by default [Google expects OAUTH2].
Is this changed recently? If not it is not the problem it worked
for many years until July 27.
Post by Paul
      To solve this, log in to your Google account through a web browser
      and enable "access through less secure apps" through this link.
      https://myaccount.google.com/lesssecureapps?pli=1
I read about it but I don't know where they have hidden this
option.
I found -somewhere- if you cannot find that option your
administrator might have removed it.
Great help, my administrator right!
Your admin can't remove options on the gmail site. Now the Google admin
could but didn't. It's still there.
Post by Edmund
Post by Paul
1) Use the "less secure apps" setting like everyone else.
     (Thunderbird may have an implementation of OAUTH2.
     The Thunderbird developers didn't want to do this,
     because it places a web protocol requirement, on what
     should be only email protocols. An email client should
     not have to know anything about the Web to work.)
     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OAuth#OAuth_2.0
2) Fiddle with SSL/TLS port number. Your client may not
     have TLS available, in which case 587 won't work.
Do (1) first, before you do anything else!
HTH,
     Paul
Edmund
I forgot, when I get the time I will find it and tell you where to find
it. Right now I don't remember but I did set it about 2 months ago for a
new email account.
Thanks, I found it and is already on.
Edmund
So all is working?
Nope
I just remembered something. You probably need to get an application
password from Google to use for Claws mail to sign into your gmail account.
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Yossarian
2018-08-02 15:00:23 UTC
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Post by Edmund
Post by Yossarian
SSL/TLS
Do not have TLS anywhere.
Post by Yossarian
Pop : Use SSL/TLS
No such option here
Selected is : use SSL for POP3 connection
Post by Yossarian
Send :Use SSL/TLS
Again no such option here
Selected is : use SSL for SMTP connection
Maybe it is not inportant, you are using SSL
Post by Edmund
Post by Yossarian
On your service sir :))))
Thank you but I still don't know what is wrong with my old
settings.
What are your port settings?
You have not selected : use secure authentication APOP did you?
No
what is your version
my is 3.15.1
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Edmund
2018-08-02 17:35:26 UTC
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Post by Yossarian
Post by Edmund
Post by Yossarian
SSL/TLS
Do not have TLS anywhere.
Post by Yossarian
Pop : Use SSL/TLS
No such option here
Selected is : use SSL for POP3 connection
Post by Yossarian
Send :Use SSL/TLS
Again no such option here
Selected is : use SSL for SMTP connection
Maybe it is not inportant, you are using SSL
Post by Edmund
Post by Yossarian
On your service sir :))))
Thank you but I still don't know what is wrong with my old
settings.
What are your port settings?
You have not selected : use secure authentication APOP did you?
No
what is your version
my is 3.15.1
3.13.2 on this machine and maybe an older on another.
As said it worked fine until July 27

Edmund
Johnny
2018-08-02 18:32:34 UTC
Permalink
On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 17:35:26 -0000 (UTC)
Post by Edmund
Post by Yossarian
Post by Edmund
Post by Yossarian
SSL/TLS
Do not have TLS anywhere.
Post by Yossarian
Pop : Use SSL/TLS
No such option here
Selected is : use SSL for POP3 connection
Post by Yossarian
Send :Use SSL/TLS
Again no such option here
Selected is : use SSL for SMTP connection
Maybe it is not inportant, you are using SSL
Post by Edmund
Post by Yossarian
On your service sir :))))
Thank you but I still don't know what is wrong with my old
settings.
What are your port settings?
You have not selected : use secure authentication APOP did you?
No
what is your version
my is 3.15.1
3.13.2 on this machine and maybe an older on another.
As said it worked fine until July 27
Edmund
I'm using 3.16.0

I remember I had the same problem, and it was because I was using such
and old version. I updated to the latest version and the problem was
gone.
Edmund
2018-08-02 19:04:28 UTC
Permalink
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 17:35:26 -0000 (UTC)
Post by Edmund
Post by Yossarian
Post by Edmund
Post by Yossarian
SSL/TLS
Do not have TLS anywhere.
Post by Yossarian
Pop : Use SSL/TLS
No such option here
Selected is : use SSL for POP3 connection
Post by Yossarian
Send :Use SSL/TLS
Again no such option here
Selected is : use SSL for SMTP connection
Maybe it is not inportant, you are using SSL
Post by Edmund
Post by Yossarian
On your service sir :))))
Thank you but I still don't know what is wrong with my old
settings.
What are your port settings?
You have not selected : use secure authentication APOP did you?
No
what is your version
my is 3.15.1
3.13.2 on this machine and maybe an older on another.
As said it worked fine until July 27
Edmund
I'm using 3.16.0
I remember I had the same problem, and it was because I was using such
and old version. I updated to the latest version and the problem was
gone.
Very interesting and highly surprising.
This Machine is on version 18.3, so why is that repository so outdated?
Still, everything worked until one week ago, now I will check the version
on another computer it also worked until ONE week ago.

Edmund
Yossarian
2018-08-02 15:12:14 UTC
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Post by Edmund
What are your port settings?
SMTP
POP
Domaine name
NOT check

But
SMPT is 465 and greyed
POP is 995 and greyed
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Yossarian
2018-08-03 10:50:55 UTC
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Post by Edmund
* Account 'xxxxxxIMAP': Connecting to SMTP server: smtp.gmail.com:465...
[12:17:42] IMAP4> 146 NOOP
[12:17:42] IMAP4< 146 OK Success
*** Session timed out. You may be able to recover by increasing the timeout value in Preferences/Other/Miscellaneous.
I'm confused IMAP/POP is for reciving not sending
SMPT is for sending look my log

Account 'Hahlic': Connecting to SMTP server: smtp.gmail.com:465...
[12:48:59] SMTP< 220 smtp.gmail.com ESMTP 7-v6sm2543627wmr.16 - gsmtp
[12:48:59] ESMTP> EHLO yoss-furry
[12:48:59] ESMTP< 250-smtp.gmail.com at your service, [89.164.22.94]
[12:48:59] ESMTP< 250-SIZE 35882577
[12:48:59] ESMTP< 250-8BITMIME
[12:48:59] ESMTP< 250-AUTH LOGIN PLAIN XOAUTH2 PLAIN-CLIENTTOKEN
OAUTHBEARER XOAUTH
[12:48:59] ESMTP< 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
[12:48:59] ESMTP< 250-PIPELINING
[12:48:59] ESMTP< 250-CHUNKING
[12:48:59] ESMTP< 250 SMTPUTF8
[12:48:59] ESMTP> AUTH LOGIN
[12:49:00] ESMTP< 334 VXNlcm5hbWU6
[12:49:00] ESMTP> [USERID]
[12:49:00] ESMTP< 334 UGFzc3dvcmQ6
[12:49:00] ESMTP> [PASSWORD]
[12:49:00] ESMTP< 235 2.7.0 Accepted
[12:49:00] ESMTP> MAIL FROM:<***@gmail.com> SIZE=493
[12:49:00] SMTP< 250 2.1.0 OK 7-v6sm2543627wmr.16 - gsmtp
[12:49:00] SMTP> RCPT TO:<***@optinet.hr>
[12:49:00] SMTP< 250 2.1.5 OK 7-v6sm2543627wmr.16 - gsmtp
[12:49:00] SMTP> DATA
[12:49:00] SMTP< 354 Go ahead 7-v6sm2543627wmr.16 - gsmtp
[12:49:00] SMTP> . (EOM)
[12:49:01] SMTP< 250 2.0.0 OK 1533293341 7-v6sm2543627wmr.16 - gsmtp
* Mail sent successfully.
[12:49:01] SMTP> QUIT
[12:49:01] SMTP< 221 2.0.0 closing connection 7-v6sm2543627wmr.16 - gsmtp
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Edmund
2018-08-04 07:57:47 UTC
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Post by Edmund
Since recently claws cannot retrieve or send from gmail.com
What happened?
Edmund
Hi guys,

Thank you all for suggestions and help.
You wont believe the problem, it seems to be a problem
with my ISP / hardware.

I had such weird behavior a couple of times before, although
then I could not access any email provider and had very slow
NNTP connection.
They had to reset something and I had to reset my "modem".
after that all was perfect.

This time I had no problem with another email provider only
gmail stopped working.
Now my NNTP also began to slow down which reminded me of former
problems, I just reseted my modem, guess what, all my old
settings are working again.
Bloody hell, waste of time and not something obvious since
the rest of my internet worked fine.


Edmund
Caver1
2018-08-04 13:10:23 UTC
Permalink
Post by Edmund
Post by Edmund
Since recently claws cannot retrieve or send from gmail.com
What happened?
Edmund
Hi guys,
Thank you all for suggestions and help.
You wont believe the problem, it seems to be a problem
with my ISP / hardware.
I had such weird behavior a couple of times before, although
then I could not access any email provider and had very slow
NNTP connection.
They had to reset something and I had to reset my "modem".
after that all was perfect.
This time I had no problem with another email provider only
gmail stopped working.
Now my NNTP also began to slow down which reminded me of former
problems, I just reseted my modem, guess what, all my old
settings are working again.
Bloody hell, waste of time and not something obvious since
the rest of my internet worked fine.
Edmund
Well at least it is solved.
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